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Recently a commenter said, “Working with all women is the absolute worst thing ever.”
As someone that does, I take personal offence to that. This isn’t a ploy to appeal to the “You PC, bro?” crowd. I’m just disappointed. I’m disappointed at generalizations like this because, to be quite honest, it’s not the wedding tackle that’s the issue, it’s the attitude of the person, how they treat their coworkers and subordinates, and the leadership that makes someone either great or total shit.
I’ve had many bosses, mostly men, ranging from a guy that will be a groomsman in my wedding to a boss that threw me into the wall (he had little man syndrome) and we had to be separated before it came to fisticuffs. I’ve had more shit bosses working slave wage jobs through high school and college than most people have in a lifetime.
When I started my job, I behaved how anyone should: in a professional manner, punctual and with a strong business casual dress game. I noticed quickly that I was outnumbered, with just two men in my department – Rob, who is thankfully gone and my work best friend Jimmy in IT. This is a new phenomenon for me but going into a field that historically has a large female workforce, I knew what I was getting into.
There are approximately 35 women in my department. A friend of mine saw our recent staff photo posted online and jokingly messaged me, “It looks like you and Dean (a guy that works in another building but is still part of the department) are with a flock of your sister wives.” While true, it got me thinking: This is the first time I’ve truly been happy at a job.
A lot of my friends have shit jobs with long hours, garbage work environments and worst of all, a terrible boss. They often complain about their mostly male bosses. I find it hard to relate to them because I have two direct bosses, both women, and I couldn’t be happier.
With men, they largely want to work independently, don’t take advice and never ask for help. At my job, everyone works together; we edit each other’s stuff and produce much more polished, refined work. When I had to work with Rob, I spent most of the time trying to teach him technology and even then, he would argue with me.
Working with women has also given me new insight. I am a minority among them (I am young and a guy) and they treat me how I’ve treated many females in a male majority conversation: they include me in their talk about male celebrities, gossip, their husbands, whatever. At workplace parties, I love to feed on their energy, and you know damn well I’m leading the conga line.
Being a man in a female dominated workplace has quite a few benefits. One of my coworker’s daughter’s makes the most out-of-this-world cupcakes I’ve ever had and you can bet your bottom dollar she makes me special cupcakes and cookies. I always get awesome Christmas presents, which I respond to with a bottle of wine to all my close coworkers because who doesn’t like wine?
It’s also nice to be needed. Anytime there needs to be heavy lifting, whether it is moving a desk, a printer or putting a new water jug on the water dispenser, I’m always up to help around the office. Last week, a large wolf spider took up residence in the cubicle area. Erin being terrified of spiders, asked me to remove it. I don’t kill spiders because spider bros kill my most hated enemy, mosquitos, so I rehomed the guy into the stairwell. Erin bought me coffee as a thanks.
My bosses like to joke around. For some reason they had a tiara and asked me to try it on. Being a good sport, I popped that thing on my giant head. At this point in time, I had longer than usual hair that curls, and my boss remarked that I looked cute with long hair. They then debated on whether that was sexual harassment, which was silly to me.
Everyone has someone in their workplace that makes them dread going to work. Generalizing an entire sex due to whatever bias isn’t a good way to go through life. I’m reaching the point in my career where l could be looking for a pay raise, but I don’t because I love my job and my bosses. They say if you love your job, you never work a day in your life and I couldn’t agree more. .
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I have about 7 work moms and it’s awesome.
I don’t even think my best friend has my back like my work mom does. That woman has been to the moon and back for me.
Most of my work moms are relatively new empty nesters and I’m just here to fill their maternal instincts, M – F, 8 – 5. One loves to bake, and another had two sons play college football and is down with all things sports. Best of all worlds.
It probably is easiest to be a male in an all female environment, especially if it is older women. Being a young female in an all female environment is much different. I’ve never seen so much jealousy and backstabbing. Your work situation is an exception to the rule.
I’m a man in an all woman workplace and I hate it. Tons of backstabbing, passive aggressive fights, arguing, you name it. To make it worse I get sexually harassed now and then and they’re all hideous.
I really hope Papa Madoff writes under a pen name for Cosmo or is a gynecologist. Or maybe a division leader at Welcome Wagon.
This may be super silly and maybe a tangent but I recall a time as a youth when kids would always say, “I want to be a gynecologist” and everyone would laugh, high fiving over how great that would be.
Older me has revisited this, and I have concluded this would be a truly awful occupation and for several reasons. #1 After getting laid, it’s just like anything else, holes and poles. #2 Thinking about all the diseases and shit would ruin it (blue waffle). #3 Desensitization.
I’m sure the money is great being a doctor but I cannot for the life of me, realize why anyone would willingly do this or be a proctologist, although “I’m a butt doctor” may or may not have been my trivia team name a few times. Sorry for the rant, just had my coffee and I’m ready to roll.
I have always just assumed that proctologists are the C- students of med school. If you have a choice between treating tennis elbows and butt holes, any sane person is going for the tennis elbows. If you don’t have the grades and get last pic of the residencies… welcome to proctology.
I’m the only guy on an account of about 15 women. The only people I can stand are the mom and my boss, the other 12 are the most basic of bitches.
I feel like you should have predicted that when you were the only guy in your marketing classes.
I thought all the gals went to PR instead of advertising, I was so wrong.
With all the work moms in my office I get fed better than I ever have in my life. I also get to hear good life advice from people who have been through some shit. What I’ve basically learned is that it’s not fun to get married and having kids seems like a terrible idea especially now and also, most people don’t like left overs.
I’ve worked in female-dominated offices for most of my postgrad life. I’ve had similar experiences to you, and mostly haven’t minded.
Of course, when they eventually get to the “let’s talk shit about the girl who isn’t here” situation, I just went back to my desk, kept my head low, and waited for everything to blow over.
Thank you for having better googling skills than me and finding that.
I object to the picture for this article because Amy Schumer is a fat, unfunny, miserable cunt.
Other than that, great article Ryan.
What do you do if you don’t mind me asking? Just curious since that is an extreme ratio that I have never seen before in a business environment
The only thing more extreme is his chill to pull ratio. Dude is off the charts.
I evaluate grants and grant accessories.
USDA, by chance?
I work for a large, land grant university.
Don’t let him fool you, he’s actually in jail.
I’ll be dipped in dog shit I wondered if you worked in the public sector or asked for money. Little did I know you do both.
I don’t ask for money. You apparently don’t know what the word “evaluate” means, which doesn’t surprise me. I’ll explain so you can figure it out.
The dictionary defines “evaluate” as “form an idea of the amount, number, or value of; assess.” That’s what I do, but with those that have received their grant money. I make sure people that fulfill what they are supposed to, check on them and make sure the money is spent correctly and they are active in achieving their goals. You forgot a period there, slugger.
You forgot a comma guy.
That depends. I don’t do the Oxford comma, it is pretentious. Get bent. I was also not born nor raised in WV. C+ for effort though.
As the commenter that hates working with women ill say this. I don’t go to work to be needed, eat cup cakes, lift heavy boxes, or gossip about the fucking bachelor. I go to work to make as much money as I can to provide for my wife and I to have a comfortable life. For the record my wife and I both work and live an average middle class life. So in closing maybe concentrate more about work and less about being a self absorbed pussy that enjoys workplace inefficiency rather than hard work, an occasional ass chewing which is sometimes deserved, and a good living. If youre the future of the American work force we are fucked and I may as well learn Mandarin and go work in China. Or does that hurt your feelings too due to how China views women in the work place?
People like you are why god doesn’t come down and talk to us anymore.
Also I see you broke 80 on a 5000 yard golf course you fucking stud you.
Why don’t you show some respect and capitalize God. People like you are the reason we won’t be the best country in the world in 25 years.
Hate to break it you but we aren’t the best country anymore and haven’t been for quite some time. Yeah we have “freedoms” but those are slowly eroding away. We aren’t even ranked in the top 10% in education anymore and we have a terrible infrastructure system compared to other countries. We do rank #1 in military and defense spending, in fact we spend more on that than the entire GDP of 26 other countries combined and in order to keep up with the demand of global imperialism, it makes sense that we always have to find some place to fuck with. So let’s stop patting ourselves on the back because being the best country in the world on this planet is seeming to be a lot like being the least Cenile person in a retirement home. ee aren’t the generation that fucked this up in fact we are the generation that is forced to clean up after previous generations mishaps. Oh and the whole God thing, why would Madoff have to show you respect when the guy in the sky has been asleep on the job for thousands of years. It’s cool though because America is God’s favorite country it even says so on all of our money which is now in short supply.
Why don’t you show some respect for the opposite gender and learn to just to work well with them? It doesn’t sound like the women in the office are the problem…
Pretty sure this kid has some underlying emotional issues. I would be upset if I knew our entire athletic department hinged on Bill Snyder’s wizardry. What’s their record without him? Years of doormat football does that to a person. All we can do is ask for positivity and so that one day, his heart will grow three sizes and catch up with the rest of the world.
As for the breaking of 80, thanks man! The course is very hilly and has a lot of terrain. It’s also $22 for 18 with a cart and you get a beer.
If you think god, GOD, God, gOD, GoD or whatever spelling of this influences how our country does, I have bad news for you….
5000 yards is still 5000 yards and you are from West Virginia so I’ll leave it at that.