Anyone in the office that week is either a try hard or an idiot. Literally no work can or will get done because most people are not working. Companies who make employees take PTO for these days are cruel
I don’t understand this. Like when you are on the bench and ask for work, people don’t want you to charge time or they hoard work for themselves to remain billable.
Good Read. I think people just need to realize that there is no road map for life and that you are often the architect of your own happiness. If you want high self esteem, then do esteemable things. I ran my first marathon last year and the training and eventual finishing of the marathon gave me a notch up in the confidence department for sure. You want to have a hot girlfriend? Go talk to the hot girl at the bar. You will not just one day wake up and be happier in your life.
I think BoJack Horseman said it best
“Here’s the secret to being happy…just pretend to be happy. After awhile, you forget you are pretending.”
Isn’t anyone else curious how you can be a “consultant” right out of school with no real experience? What are you consulting on? Finding a shorter the bar with the best happy hour?
Absolutely. I try to take time to do something special for my mom around the holidays as she is not really seeing anyone and she does not have anyone to really make her feel special any more. Losing a spouse a totally different feeling than a parent. I try to remember that and realize how strong my mom is. She was out of the work force for 20 years and suddenly had to become self sufficient again. Respect the hell out of her
Bill – It takes a special king of strength to continue college after losing your parent. When my dad was sick with cancer my senior year, I was working part time, trying to keep my grades up, and interviewing for jobs. Driving an hour to spend time with him as much as I could while trying to keep my shit together was one of the greatest struggles of my life. Looking back on it, I dont know how I kept it together. If there was no light at the end of the tunnel (sophmore year as opposed to senior year), I am not sure I would have made it through. Kudos to you my man
Madoff – Thank you for writing this. I lost my dad to cancer about a month after you lost yours (October 23rd) and honestly, you hit on almost every chord. My brother and I were very close with him and gave a eulogy to what felt like 300 people at the age of 23. From the desperate desire to call them (I even called his old number and the exact same thing happened to me) to the relationship with my mother. It is not strained by any means, just different. I often find myself doing random things and think “wow, I am turning into my dad” which is not necessarily a bad thing.
I try to remember that he is not truly gone and live on in the lessons he taught my brother and I. I do things that I think would make him proud and try to honor his memory. Stay strong my man and remember the good times
Are you still in public accounting? My guess is no. I was poking around some smaller PE shops here in town that I thought seemed interesting. Talked to a few people but never formalized an interview or anything as I was not sure what my move should be. I am kind of getting to the point where I am not learning as much as I did when I was an associate or even as a new senior (almost a manager now).
Funny the narrative with busy seasons all seem to be the same whatever firm you are at. Big accounting firms are just bureaucratic nightmares. I like to tell people the reason I work in public accounting is because it raises the floor (and the ceiling) on your salary for future jobs
I was at a networking event today and was talking to someone who told me thier title was “Director of Sales”. She was about 26. I felt like shit (Senior Associate here) and she told me about this “start up” she worked at. Turns out they are “revolutionizing the way people get to work” via a large ride sharing app. I didnt have the balls to tell her that her company invented the bus. Wish I did
Nevermind, just saw you worked in asset management. very cool. I am in non-chicago midwest where there is not alot of that. Although, I do like working with large manufacturing companies. Seeing how they make their products and what not. Like you said though, when you get involved in financial instruments, its gets more complicated, which I am sure has opened doors for you. hope the grass is greener
Hey Bill, I am kind of at that point too. I dont work at Big 4, but at a national firm (GT/RSM/BDO) and am debating what to do next. Dont have a passion for accounting, so I am not sure about the private side. I do like working on different clients and seeing different types of business. What are you into now? I am now in my 5th busy season (damn time flies). Anyway, can relate. I have like 50 invitations from recruiters in my linkedin inbox at the moment. vultures, all of them
Recently went on a second date, went for the kiss, and got nothing but cheek. Super awkward. First time it has ever happened to me and dont wish it on anyone. To make this more strange, she texted me after leaving saying she had a great time. Girls man
Every employer that recruited from my business school (Ohio State) asked for your GPA. Every single one. Most of the time they had a cut off as well and would not interview you if you below a 3.0 (for the competitive jobs, 3.5). Granted, most of these were large, professional service firms or Fortune 500 companies, but in my opinion GPA is very important, atleast for your first job. You say no one will care what tour grades were 10 years from now, which I 100% agree with, but you have to get to “10 years from now”.
TLDR: GPA is important for your first job out of college and if you leave that quickly, the one after that. Pretty much any entry level position
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Anyone in the office that week is either a try hard or an idiot. Literally no work can or will get done because most people are not working. Companies who make employees take PTO for these days are cruel
I don’t understand this. Like when you are on the bench and ask for work, people don’t want you to charge time or they hoard work for themselves to remain billable.
Good Read. I think people just need to realize that there is no road map for life and that you are often the architect of your own happiness. If you want high self esteem, then do esteemable things. I ran my first marathon last year and the training and eventual finishing of the marathon gave me a notch up in the confidence department for sure. You want to have a hot girlfriend? Go talk to the hot girl at the bar. You will not just one day wake up and be happier in your life.
I think BoJack Horseman said it best
“Here’s the secret to being happy…just pretend to be happy. After awhile, you forget you are pretending.”
Isn’t anyone else curious how you can be a “consultant” right out of school with no real experience? What are you consulting on? Finding a shorter the bar with the best happy hour?
Absolutely. I try to take time to do something special for my mom around the holidays as she is not really seeing anyone and she does not have anyone to really make her feel special any more. Losing a spouse a totally different feeling than a parent. I try to remember that and realize how strong my mom is. She was out of the work force for 20 years and suddenly had to become self sufficient again. Respect the hell out of her
Bill – It takes a special king of strength to continue college after losing your parent. When my dad was sick with cancer my senior year, I was working part time, trying to keep my grades up, and interviewing for jobs. Driving an hour to spend time with him as much as I could while trying to keep my shit together was one of the greatest struggles of my life. Looking back on it, I dont know how I kept it together. If there was no light at the end of the tunnel (sophmore year as opposed to senior year), I am not sure I would have made it through. Kudos to you my man
Madoff – Thank you for writing this. I lost my dad to cancer about a month after you lost yours (October 23rd) and honestly, you hit on almost every chord. My brother and I were very close with him and gave a eulogy to what felt like 300 people at the age of 23. From the desperate desire to call them (I even called his old number and the exact same thing happened to me) to the relationship with my mother. It is not strained by any means, just different. I often find myself doing random things and think “wow, I am turning into my dad” which is not necessarily a bad thing.
I try to remember that he is not truly gone and live on in the lessons he taught my brother and I. I do things that I think would make him proud and try to honor his memory. Stay strong my man and remember the good times
Are you still in public accounting? My guess is no. I was poking around some smaller PE shops here in town that I thought seemed interesting. Talked to a few people but never formalized an interview or anything as I was not sure what my move should be. I am kind of getting to the point where I am not learning as much as I did when I was an associate or even as a new senior (almost a manager now).
Funny the narrative with busy seasons all seem to be the same whatever firm you are at. Big accounting firms are just bureaucratic nightmares. I like to tell people the reason I work in public accounting is because it raises the floor (and the ceiling) on your salary for future jobs
I am in Cleveland…which is a little bigger than Des Moines
I was at a networking event today and was talking to someone who told me thier title was “Director of Sales”. She was about 26. I felt like shit (Senior Associate here) and she told me about this “start up” she worked at. Turns out they are “revolutionizing the way people get to work” via a large ride sharing app. I didnt have the balls to tell her that her company invented the bus. Wish I did
Nevermind, just saw you worked in asset management. very cool. I am in non-chicago midwest where there is not alot of that. Although, I do like working with large manufacturing companies. Seeing how they make their products and what not. Like you said though, when you get involved in financial instruments, its gets more complicated, which I am sure has opened doors for you. hope the grass is greener
Hey Bill, I am kind of at that point too. I dont work at Big 4, but at a national firm (GT/RSM/BDO) and am debating what to do next. Dont have a passion for accounting, so I am not sure about the private side. I do like working on different clients and seeing different types of business. What are you into now? I am now in my 5th busy season (damn time flies). Anyway, can relate. I have like 50 invitations from recruiters in my linkedin inbox at the moment. vultures, all of them
My only rebuttal to this is why would she care? If I dont want to see someone again, I am not going out of my way to make them feel more comfortable.
Recently went on a second date, went for the kiss, and got nothing but cheek. Super awkward. First time it has ever happened to me and dont wish it on anyone. To make this more strange, she texted me after leaving saying she had a great time. Girls man
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Who hurt you?
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Disagree. This is 100% not rare, atleast in business, IT, and engineering.
Every employer that recruited from my business school (Ohio State) asked for your GPA. Every single one. Most of the time they had a cut off as well and would not interview you if you below a 3.0 (for the competitive jobs, 3.5). Granted, most of these were large, professional service firms or Fortune 500 companies, but in my opinion GPA is very important, atleast for your first job. You say no one will care what tour grades were 10 years from now, which I 100% agree with, but you have to get to “10 years from now”.
TLDR: GPA is important for your first job out of college and if you leave that quickly, the one after that. Pretty much any entry level position